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Hail to the Chief! « Result #1 on Jan 22, 2009, 10:20pm »
Well, we survived the Bush years, but it was freakin rough. Thank god that is all in the past now.
We'll see how things go now. It's going to be tough work for Barack Hussain Obama (Ha!) to try to get the economy turned around, but hopefully things will get better there. At least we know that we will stop torturing people, and we will hopefully start rolling back some of the stupid de-regulation policies put in place by Bush, and get to work on trying to fix some of the damage done to environmental rules and enforcement.
I can't make up my mind if we should bail out the big 3 or not. They put themselves there but a lot of jobs will be lost. I guess I am leaning to let them go bankrupt. We can't bail out everyone. My Ford stock is sure taking a beating. Bill
Re: Obama to use Presidential Directives... « Result #10 on Nov 10, 2008, 8:28am »
Well we will see how he gets his ideas going. I guess that is one way. I thought that the 2 crazy asses Read and Polosie were against drilling? If the Dems let GM go how many jobs will we loose? Don't forget about the companies that make knobs, wipers, wiring harnesses and on and on. We have what 10 million with out jobs now? Bill
Re: Whew this board is DEAD!!! « Result #15 on Nov 4, 2008, 8:13am »
Glad to see you get involved. When I was 18 I ran on the gop ticket to be a state rep at the convention. (state) I won. So I went to Indy for a day and met all the big wigs in the state gov. I was the youngest delegate there. I saw how the system works on the floor. My mom started to have dreams of me getting involved in politics. LOL at 18 I had other things I wanted to get involved with. LOL Bill
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Re: Whew this board is DEAD!!! « Result #16 on Nov 3, 2008, 9:55pm »
Voted Saturday. 3 hour wait at the county courthouse, and we had our little girl (almost 2 years old) with us. Fortunately she is a wonderful kid (great parenting! ).
Now that voting is done, I'm free to volunteer for the Obama campaign all day on election day. I may be knocking on your door tomorrow!
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Re: Whew this board is DEAD!!! « Result #18 on Nov 3, 2008, 12:09am »
Has everybody seen the actual "Joe the plumber" footage? If not, you need to see it. Obama should have put the whole 5 1/2 minutes in his 30 minute show the other night. It's a great commercial for Obama. He takes the time to really explain things to the guy. He is extremely nice to the guy, even though it is obvious that the guy has kind of a hostile attitude toward him. When you hear the facts about the situation, you understand that old Joe W. would have been much better off under Obama's plan anyways.
I love those McCain "Joe the Plumber" commercials. All those people saying "I am Joe the Plumber". Are they saying they make over $250,000? If so, screw those greedy pricks. Pay your fair share a-holes! Take one for the team and only buy 2 new Lexus' this year instead of 3. Are real people really buying that bull?
I check in every day and it is slow Polls show that old Johny boy is catch up, but I don't think he can pull it off. Being a independent I was leaning too McCain but when silly Sarha (sp) was picked that ended that thought. The way I feel now I am voting for up to 3 supreme court justices. Do I want Mzzzzzzz. Palin picking the new justices? Not a chance in hell. We can vote a prez out but not a supreme court justices. That job is for life! My 2 cents Bill
Re: Whew this board is DEAD!!! « Result #20 on Nov 1, 2008, 8:12am »
I check in every day and it is slow Polls show that old Johny boy is catch up, but I don't think he can pull it off. Being a independent I was leaning too McCain but when silly Sarha (sp) was picked that ended that thought. The way I feel now I am voting for up to 3 supreme court justices. Do I want Mzzzzzzz. Palin picking the new justices? Not a chance in hell. We can vote a prez out but not a supreme court justices. That job is for life! My 2 cents Bill
Obama , how could anyone, except the most lunatic of the far right christians, vote for mccain after he picked Palin? Anyone supporting Palin probably has less IQ then she has and that is a scary idea.
Re: Whew this board is DEAD!!! « Result #22 on Oct 29, 2008, 4:24pm »
Obama , how could anyone, except the most lunatic of the far right christians, vote for mccain after he picked Palin? Anyone supporting Palin probably has less IQ then she has and that is a scary idea.
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Re: Powel on the candidates « Result #25 on Oct 23, 2008, 7:00am »
In order for earnings to grow, for GDP to grow, in today's environment, there isn't much of a margin for corporations and small businesses--many have negative earnings growth--some are losing money. In a recession they are in survival mode. National City for instance announced that they are cutting 4,000 jobs. You want to raise taxes on them?
If Americans get a little more money this year, it won't do much to stoke the economy. Remember "The Economic Stimulus Act of '08"?
The way to handle it is to cut gov spending, and yes invest in infrastructure---but still lower spending---lower corporate taxes a ton to bring industry back, lower small biz taxes, lower the middle class's taxes, and then maybe raise taxes on wealthy people's personal incomes.
Obama does have style and substance, he does have an intellectual vigor that is absent in McCain. He does inspire.
BUT... in talking about the right way to deal with this economic crisis, I don't think raising taxes is the right thing to do. It's sounds nice to say that 95% of Americans will receive a tax cut, but if taxes are raised on corporations and small business, there will be a lot less in the way of income for the 95% to be taxed.
It's not like the corporations and business' are just going to stop making money if their taxes are raised a tiny bit. Plus, the tax cuts for the 95% of Americans gives 95% of the folks in the country more money to spend, which means more money for the corporations. Call it trickle down economics with the board flipped upside down. Makes more sense that way anyways. People who don't have tons of excess cash are probably going to spend it if they have it, whereas people with lots of excess cash are more likely to just sock the money away for a rainy day. That doesn't help the economy much.
Also, keep in mind that the distribution of wealth in the country is scewed toward the rich to an extreme not seen since right before the great depression. I think the rich can handle paying a little higher taxes. They've been making out like bandits for quite a while now, and it hasn't been helping the little folks much.
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Re: Powel on the candidates « Result #27 on Oct 22, 2008, 7:07pm »
Yeah. He is smart. He made a good case.
Obama does have style and substance, he does have an intellectual vigor that is absent in McCain. He does inspire.
BUT... in talking about the right way to deal with this economic crisis, I don't think raising taxes is the right thing to do. It's sounds nice to say that 95% of Americans will receive a tax cut, but if taxes are raised on corporations and small business, there will be a lot less in the way of income for the 95% to be taxed.
Powel on the candidates « Result #28 on Oct 19, 2008, 12:45pm »
Colin Powel sounds like a clever fellow. What ever happened to him? Did Bush and the neo cons just ditch him after they convinced him to lie to the un?
Senator Evan Bayh's reply to my letter « Result #29 on Oct 16, 2008, 7:08am »
I wrote Bayh about NOT bailing out wall street.
Dear Mr. Wade :
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 , the legislation recently enacted to stabilize our financial system. I share many of your concerns about this legislation. It was among the hardest votes I have ever cast.
Hoosiers who have behaved responsibly, who did not take inordinate risks, who saved their money, and who did not get in over their heads are angry. They have every right to be. I am angry, too.
We should not be in this mess, but we are. The question is: What are we going to do about what experts call the greatest economic crisis to face America in more than a half-century? In the end, Senator Lugar and I both concluded that, as imperfect as the bill is, the risks of doing nothing were too great for the American economy.
Regrettably, those who would pay most if Congress failed to act would be ordinary people who have done nothing wrong. This conclusion was reached by countless groups representing ordinary people across Indiana and the nation: AARP (representing seniors); the U.S. Chamber of Commerce (representing employers); the Farm Bureau Federation of America (representing farmers); the National Federation of Independent Business (representing small businesses); the National Education Association (representing teachers); and many others.
The president of the Indiana Chamber of Commerce stated, "Now, more than ever, partisanship and politics must be put aside for the benefit of our state and country. The Indiana Chamber and its members are typically not in the position of advocating for government intervention in the free market system. Today's unique circumstances, however, make it essential for our legislative and executive leaders in Washington to act now to restore our financial markets and consumer confidence."
Many of our state's leading newspapers also concluded that an immediate federal response was an unfortunate, but necessary step for Indiana . The Indianapolis Star wrote, " The cost of further inaction is likely to be devastating to the American public, both now and in the years ahead." The Louisville Courier-Journal stated it "is critical to pass the best available bill now to avoid panic." The Evansville Courier-Press warned of "preventing financial Armageddon [and] the potential loss of millions of jobs, a scenario not contemplated since 1929." The Times of Northwest Indiana wrote, "For the sake of local investors, savers, employees and their families, Congress must not delay. A bailout might be distasteful, but bitter medicine is sometimes necessary." Finally, the Lafayette Journal and Courier concluded, "The bailout isn't fair, and it isn't free enterprise at its best. But it's the right thing to do to shore up the nation's economy."
There were no good options. However, the final plan is far better than the Administration's original proposal. Executives seeking public help after ruining their companies will be prevented from profiting. There will be no golden parachutes or outrageous executive pay packages. There will be independent oversight to prevent conflicts of interest and outright corruption. The taxpayer will be protected by receiving an ownership interest in companies that receive government assistance. If after five years, the taxpayers have lost money, the financial industry can be required to pay it back.
This intervention is no cure-all. More difficult decisions lie ahead. But it is better than doing nothing, and that was the alternative. It is, however, not all that must be done.
Once we have stabilized our system, we must channel our anger into making sure this never, ever happens again. I'm not a cynic, but I am a skeptic about the way Washington can work in times like these. Congress will act in a moment of crisis, but once it has subsided, the sense of urgency will pass. The forces of reform will not have the energy that they do today. All the special interests will circle the Capitol like hungry birds looking for prey in order to prevent us from taking the steps that are necessary. We must not let that happen. I will do everything I can to see that it does not.
The troubled state of public finance highlights the importance of restoring fiscal responsibility to the federal budget. As Governor of Indiana, I balanced the budget without once raising taxes, and I left behind a $1 billion budget surplus, the largest in state history. I vetoed an entire state budget because I didn't think it was fiscally sustainable.
I have continued to push for a more conservative fiscal approach during my time in the U.S. Senate. This year, I was the only member of my party to vote against a bloated budget that would have added $2 trillion to our national debt. I was one of a handful of Senators who voted for a one-year moratorium on wasteful earmark spending. I was one of only seven Democrats to support a commission to recommend cuts in wasteful government programs. I was one of only 15 Senators to vote against the now-infamous Bridge to Nowhere.
In September, the Senate passed my legislation requiring Iraq - not the U.S. taxpayers - to pay more to help themselves. Iraq has a $79 billion surplus. It's not fair to ask American taxpayers to borrow billions from China to hand over to a country that is not spending its own money to help itself.
We must treat every taxpayer dollar like the precious commodity it is. Hoosiers work their fingers to the bone, and money sent to Washington must be spent on critical national priorities, such as preventing a collapse of our economy.
Again, thank you for contacting me. I value your input and hope you will continue to keep me informed of the issues important to you.
Office of Senator Evan Bayh (202) 224-5623 Russell 463 Washington, D.C. 20510
Re: Anybody watch the Presidential Debate? « Result #30 on Oct 14, 2008, 3:25pm »
Yeah its a weak response from someone that claims he knows so much. But I really wish politicians stopped pretending they have the answere for everything.
Re: Dangerous Talk « Result #32 on Oct 11, 2008, 8:11am »
With McCain down by 10 points the GOP and it's member are lashing out. But with the crowds out of control it might get dangerous. LOTS of crazy out there! Bill
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Dangerous Talk « Result #33 on Oct 10, 2008, 9:48pm »
This is starting to get pretty scary. Over the last week or so, as McCain and Palin have stepped up their anti Obama rhetoric, the mood in their rallies has gotten extremely dark and angy.
They keep talking about how Obama is "palling around with terrorists" and doesn't love his country. How he can't be trusted, and how we don't really know who he is... Oh yeah, and they've been having the folks who introduce them at the rallys throwing around Obama's middle name, something that McCain has said was out of bounds in the past. Obviously they are doing this in a desperate attempt to stop the polls that keep tipping further and further away from them, but so far it hasn't been having that effect. Instead it is just whipping the already rabid supporters into a frenzy. The supporters at the rallys have been screaming things like "Treason!" "Terrorist!" "Kill Him!" and "Off with his head!". Until today, McCain and Palin have done absolutely nothing to try to calm these people down, or give any indication that they do not approve of such things being said (McCain did sort of get startled by a loud shout of "Terrorist!" at one of his rallys, but then continued on without a word about that statement). Finally today McCain did at least mention that he believes Obama is a good and decent man, and said that people do not need to be afraid of him as president. This statement received a loud round a boos from his supporters.
This is very dangerous ground that McCain and Palin are treading on. We all know that this is an election where there are certain concerns, and insighting people into frenzied fear and rage might not be the best idea in that kind of situation.
Hopefully the comments from McCain today are an indication that he has some understanding of that fact, and that he has decided that it is his responsibility to try to correct his mistake and calm down the situation. We will see.
I particularly liked his answer to the question about fixing Social Secuirty and Medicare. Bascially, (paraphrasing) he said "I'll answer the question. I know how to fix social security. It's not hard. We just need to sit down accross a table. It's been done before. As for Medicare, that's more difficult. We need to have a commission of the smartest people in America, and have them come up with something."
To be honest I kind of like that answer. Of course Im one of the few people that belive educated experts should make the descisions, not politicians. My ideal leader would be one that do indeed put togheter the smartest people in the country(for each issue) and delegate the decision making to them.
The majority of politicians are either uneducated scum or lawyers or something equaly worthless when it comes to real issues like energy policy etc. As for the people voting for them, they are even worse.
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